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Cake day: August 31st, 2025

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  • I hate seeing this kind of doomerism around AI discussions. A future where we have no rights is not inevitable.

    We know for a fact that OpenAI, Anthropic, Google etc trained on GPL code. They haven’t claimed otherwise, and this isn’t something they’re trying to hide.

    We also know what the various open source models were trained on, since they’re open source.

    We can pass laws that require LLM providers to disclose their data set in some way, eg through independent audits. Trump is the one who didn’t want AI regulation, and he basically just lost all ability to make that a reality. The final six weeks of the pedophile congress isn’t likely to accomplish anything on that front, and even if they do, the incoming congress can reverse it.

    This is the time to energize people, not complain on the internet.


  • I recall articles saying that significant input/prompt may influence that. Whether this is true or not I can’t say.

    That’s not true. Until these issues have run through the courts, we won’t know what is or isn’t legal. The biggest court case I’m familiar with atm is the New York Times’ case that has yet to be resolved, and even then the ruling there will probably be too narrow to decide anything for code licensing. Hell, OpenAI/Microsoft might even settle to avoid a bad ruling, leaving all those questions unanswered.

    So the Tl;Dr is that anyone using LLMs to code (in any capacity) is taking a risk, since the legality of it is still uncertain. It’s not outside the realm of possibility that some court will rule that LLMs trained on stolen data are illegal, and the outputs of those models are infringing.





  • Personally, I think any output from these models must be for noncommercial use only, as its impossible to track down exactly whose rights are being violated for any given output, yet guaranteed that’s its a non-zero number every single time.

    They want it to worm its way into every corner of our lives as quickly as possible so that when a non-criminal administration and congress come into power, they’ll be hesitant to prosecute something that touches the entire economy.

    Don’t let them win.